kerithwyn: Oracle (Nick Lane)
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Niiiiiick.

Man, for a character who shows up in all of three(!) episodes, this guy has a huge impact on the mythology of the show. And on fanfic imagination.

(Less restrained exclamations to follow in comments.)

Bad Dreams


Writer: Akiva Goldsman
Director: Akiva Goldsman
Originally aired: April 21, 2009

Synopsis:
Olivia witnesses a suicide in New York while asleep and dreaming in Boston. When a second deadly vision happens, Broyles puts his trust in Olivia and deploys the team to investigate further. As details emerge, Olivia uncovers new information regarding the ZFT manuscript, the experimental drug Cortexiphan, and that the case may be tied to her own past.

Most Memorable Quote:
NICK LANE: Olive. You heard me. You heard me - you came. You were always the strong one. Whenever I got scared, you could make me feel better. Do you remember, Olive?
OLIVIA: I’m sorry, no, I don't.
NICK LANE: That’s okay. I think they meant for us to forget. I just couldn't. I did what they told us. I waited, Olive. The soldier to come is both natural and unnatural. I waited to be called up. You stay fit; stay focused, and stay ready. I wore the blacks and grays. I blended in. But the call never came. It never came. Then, that man with the glasses, he showed up at the hospital. He spoke all the old words. He said they're coming. He needed warriors. He said... "what was written will come to pass." He said he knew how to wake me up. I shouldn't have listened to him. Sometimes what we wake up, it can't be put back to sleep.

Links:
Episode transcript
Seriable rewatch
Polite Dissent, medical/science reviews.

Fanfiction:
I wasn't reading Fringe fic at the time, but judging by the dates on the Nick Lane tag on AO3, his appearance really did wake something up. For AU fic written on the heels of this episode, see:
Choke Chain series by Chichuri
Ways and Means series by Elfin

For more:
Nick Lane tag on AO3

Date: 2014-06-03 01:30 pm (UTC)
elfin: image: nick smiling (fringe.w&m nick smile)
From: [personal profile] elfin
Three episodes? How is that possible?

Date: 2014-06-03 03:51 pm (UTC)
wendelah1: (Fringe Rewatch)
From: [personal profile] wendelah1
I second the request for you to talk about "Ways and Means." Or this episode. Or anything at all...

Date: 2014-06-03 09:53 pm (UTC)
wikiaddicted723: (Nick)
From: [personal profile] wikiaddicted723
I THIRD THAT! Please, make this comments section richer with your Thoughts and Opinions on one very beautiful Nick Lane.

Also, NIIIIIIIIICCCCKKKKKK.

(goes back to writing Nick).

Date: 2014-06-05 07:35 pm (UTC)
wikiaddicted723: (Nick)
From: [personal profile] wikiaddicted723
This is easily my most-watched s1 episode by a far margin.

Yes, mine too. it is easily within my top five episodes, not to say it is my favourite (I mostly don't say it because doing so would be too final, and there are so many great moments on this show...). I think it's also the fact that it is the first episode that affects Olivia directly, and only her. She had her moment of supreme weirdness back in Ability, but Bad Dreams is about her and her past in a much more intrinsic way. Also because the villain here is not a villain, just someone in pain that remembered her fondly and called for her help - granted, he could have picked up a phone to do so, and avoid a little bit of blood but then we wouldn't have had this wonderful episode. Nick is, easily, what Olivia could become if her "powers" run out of control.

I'm kind of exploring that last sentence in my writing right now, and so I have watched this episode ad nauseum the past couple of weeks. It never fails to entertain. Also kudos to Akiva Goldsman's writing and directing - I would go as far as to say that this is the episode that determined the character traits that we would later come to know our characters for: Walter's guilt, Olivia's fear of vulnerability, Peter's compassion, Astrid's intuition and resourcefulness, not to mention patience.

OLIVIA: I always hated that you could date two guys at the same time.
-- I used that line against her in fic. :D


*snorts* Uh...me too. Just...in a more traditional way.

one of the reasons I once told a potential viewer that Fringe had one of the most naturally evolving romances I'd seen on tv. (Yes, I said that. Before s4, of course.)

Ah, season 4. More on it later.

I agree with you, for the most part. I still find it refreshing that for the first 3 seasons the writing department let their relationship change in an organic way-not too rushed, and not seven-fucking-seasons too late. Their friendship was more closely explored than their romance per se, and that's just not something that you see on television every day. They were always people who communicated shit to each other (EVENTUALLY. Looking at you season 5 *growls*), and talked to sort through their issues in a mature, adult way.

On the topic of season 4, while I am a Peter and Olivia advocate (like it's not obvious ;) I do wish they had explored the ramifications of Olivia remembering, or not remembering as the case may be. Rationally, I get that they didn't have the time because EVERYONE thought this would be the last season, but I wonder if it wouldn't have gone better if they let them reunite at a slower pace, in a more organic way. Because even if Olivia remembers and trusts those memories, there are still other parts of her life that should take precedence, and that she should take time to sort out before deciding "yes, this it, I'm doing this thing." She has a nephew she doesn't know, a life she lived with Nina Sharp as her mother in every respect, and possibly many more little changes that make her position in this timeline different than in the other one, and all that is just the tip of the iceberg. They both went though experiences of their own that changed them, and I think they were not given enough time to get closure on them, on their own, before the writing shoved them back together.
Peter, in a smaller measure, also suffered from this: we never really see the fallout of him witnessing all those years in the grey timeline, we never see him acknowledge those lost moments, or deal with the trauma of remembering he lost Olivia to his biological father.
As a part of this "consequences" movement, I would have wished to see Lincoln handled with more care, instead of being a throwaway piece to make people angst about Peter and Olivia not getting together, or Peter having to watch Olivia get it on with someone else. And while I'm relatively at peace with how things turned out for him, because I do think he is much more compatible with Altliv than with our Olivia (they're just too similar), I think the writing could have still reached this conclusion in a more satisfying way, starting with but not limited to not KILLING RED!LINCOLN AND MAKING IT SEEM LIKE OUR LINCOLN WAS A SECONDHAND REPLACEMENT.

Basically, what I'm saying is that they should have had at least one more season to go back to the proper order of things, and more adequately deal with everything they wanted to do, instead of rushing to the finish with a two parter that would have fit much better if we had had all of that character development to give it gravity, instead of having to resort to shooting Olivia for shock value (which, in my defense, was also a pretty neat parallel to Walternate shooting Olivia in the grey timeline, but again, no consequences explored whatsoever).

/end unintelligible rant.

God, Nick's face when he sees her. He loves her so much. *watches for the umpteenth time, rapt*

God, yes. In the most pure form of love possible, like he's still the seven year old that trusts her to take care of his favourite toy.

I maintain that, while I don't like the concept of soul mates, because it is ridiculous that you can't love more than one person in your lifetime, I do agree with the fact that Nick would be Olivia's soulmate - which is independent of Olivia ending up with Peter or not, because soul mates do not, by definition, need to be romantically involved.

And that coda, with tiny!Olivia's pyrokinetic flash and Leonard Nimoy's dead-giveaway voice.

Ugh.... so much unwritten fic, so little time.
Edited Date: 2014-06-05 09:03 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-06-06 12:44 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] corwinofamber
Bad Dreams! Yeah!

I've gotten four people to watch Fringe by starting them on this episode. It's quintessential Fringe, and I will say it's my favorite S1 episode.

Nick Lane - what a goldmine for fanfic writers :) Well, not in my fic, but some of my favorite writers have done well by him. I never felt I understood him enough to write him.

This episode was mostly perfect. The scary parts were uber scary without being disgusting. The scenes between Peter and Olivia show their growing trust and hint at more, without hitting you over the head with it.

Broyles must have had a career filled with strangeness if he can accept this case and support Olivia.

The people just dropping what they doing and following Nick at the end reminded me of disciples dropping what they were doing and following Jesus in the Bible. Was Jesus a reverse empath? Is Nick a dark Messiah?

WALTER: Astral...

ASTRID: Astrid!

WALTER: ...projection. A spirit walk, as it were. No, no, no, you wouldn't have had sufficient corporeal form to interact with the young woman.

That joke never gets old. And Astrid had good rapport with Peter in this episode. They're lab buddies, having to deal with Walter all the time.

WALTER: It worked on perception. Carlos Castaneda, Aldus Huxley, Werner Heisenberg, all focused on one single elementary truth. Perception is the key to transformation.
PETER: Reality is both subjective and malleable. If you can dream a better world, you can make a better world.
WALTER: Or perhaps travel between them.
PETER: What did you just say?

MAJOR CLUE here. And a hint that Peter really does have questions about all the stuff he suppressed from his childhood.

*Quotes from Fringepedia, because I'm too lazy to transcribe them.

All in all, one of the best episodes of the series.
Edited Date: 2014-06-06 12:45 am (UTC)

Date: 2014-06-06 08:19 pm (UTC)
wendelah1: (Olivia)
From: [personal profile] wendelah1
He did inspire a disproportionate amount of fanfic given how brief his appearances were in the series. I confess, he didn't make much of an impression on me. I remember I had to go look him up to figure out who he was when you started writing about him.

The one story I was hoping to read never got written: an AU where Olivia asked Walter Bishop to figure out a way to cure him so Nick didn't have to stay in a medically induced coma (or end up a virtual prisoner of Massive Dynamic).

I do love this episode, too, mainly because I love how Olivia is willing to investigate the mysterious deaths, even if she turns out to be the murderer. "Let justice be done though the heavens fall." She doesn't hide from the truth, even if it's unpleasant, which is why surprising that she remembers so little about her childhood and that she would choose in season four to erase one set of her memories in favor of another set that belonged to an Olivia from a different timeline. I still don't get that.

Date: 2014-06-08 09:09 pm (UTC)
estella_c: (Default)
From: [personal profile] estella_c
I agree that this is a good, evocative episode and that Nick is a strong character. But that's pretty much all I have to say. I guess I'm not so deeply invested.

Great things could have blossomed from all the suggestions in this ep. The Mighty X isn't the only series that let its fans down. It's hard to think of a non-cable show that hasn't. The structure of the series form is breaking and reforming and I think much of our disappointment lies in the bullying of the creators by the execs. Who are, like the rest of us, being bullied by the money men.

I find myself singing the mommy song at the beginning often.
Unfortunately, I can't get all the words.

Part of the show's strength (sorry, scattered thinking) is that in RL people *are* affected by the moods of others. And some people more than the average. I pick up feelings like litmus paper, an image I've often used although I'm uncertain--being an English major--what that is.

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