Isn't the science on this show nearly always terrible? This is a quote from the comments in Polite Dissent, which I am so happy to have been introduced to by 'rith. "Critiquing the science on this show is like shooting fish in a barrel. I’ve taken to describing it as 'X-Files, only with worse science but a cool mad scientist'." Don't get me wrong, I love nitpicking science and every other element of every show I've ever watched, but bad science writing is the norm in TV science fiction.
I love that Peter doesn't think twice about owing Nina a favor... This is how Peter ends up owing money to a guy whose name is Big Eddie.
Ha ha! Excellent point! I love the idea of the Fringe Cook Book, too.
That's a very self-satisfied smile from Nina Sharp at the end, given that she's creating a monster in Olivia Dunham who will no doubt do the same thing to Nina if Nina ever steps out of line.
Dear Olivia: "Corporate espionage is massively illegal"? Um... no. Some corporate espionage is massively illegal, but most is legal and legitimately part of how business is done. Get off your damned FBI high horse.
Some corporate espionage is legal but most is not, using the commonly understood lay definition of the term. Stealing protected information, bribery, blackmail: all illegal. There is information gathering on rival companies, similar to what the intelligence community does, which is legal. But this is television writing; they're not big on nuance.
Anyway, Olivia isn't on a "damned FBI high horse." She's not a real FBI agent, working for a government agency with a long history of ignoring the civil rights of American citizens in the pursuit of "justice" and "ensuring domestic tranquility." She's a character on a television show. Maybe you could cut her a little slack here?
You think Olivia is or is becoming a monster? Could you define monster, please, and explain how she fits your definition. And how Nina is "creating her," too. Although discussion of the abuse of government power by the Department of Homeland Security and the Fringe investigations is most welcome, (also fanfiction and meta addressing same!), random dumping on Olivia is not.
I liked the scene where Olivia tells Peter about her stepfather. I like that Peter is so patient with her, ready to listen if she wants to listen but not forcing anything, but that he also doesn't let her trample all over him. And I love that Olivia already trusts him enough to share this with him, and not only to share the story but to share how she feels about the story. That seems so far already from where pilot Olivia was on trusting people.
That's probably my favorite scene in the series so far. She can't remember Peter yet, but there is already a bond forming between them. Yeah, trust is a huge issue for her, and Peter, too, which is expected given their childhoods, and their history with Walter Bishop. She's such a strong person. Everyone on the show is always saying that, but it's true. But that strength has come at a great personal cost.
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Date: 2014-04-20 03:35 pm (UTC)I love that Peter doesn't think twice about owing Nina a favor... This is how Peter ends up owing money to a guy whose name is Big Eddie.
Ha ha! Excellent point! I love the idea of the Fringe Cook Book, too.
That's a very self-satisfied smile from Nina Sharp at the end, given that she's creating a monster in Olivia Dunham who will no doubt do the same thing to Nina if Nina ever steps out of line.
Dear Olivia: "Corporate espionage is massively illegal"? Um... no. Some corporate espionage is massively illegal, but most is legal and legitimately part of how business is done. Get off your damned FBI high horse.
Some corporate espionage is legal but most is not, using the commonly understood lay definition of the term. Stealing protected information, bribery, blackmail: all illegal. There is information gathering on rival companies, similar to what the intelligence community does, which is legal. But this is television writing; they're not big on nuance.
Anyway, Olivia isn't on a "damned FBI high horse." She's not a real FBI agent, working for a government agency with a long history of ignoring the civil rights of American citizens in the pursuit of "justice" and "ensuring domestic tranquility." She's a character on a television show. Maybe you could cut her a little slack here?
You think Olivia is or is becoming a monster? Could you define monster, please, and explain how she fits your definition. And how Nina is "creating her," too. Although discussion of the abuse of government power by the Department of Homeland Security and the Fringe investigations is most welcome, (also fanfiction and meta addressing same!), random dumping on Olivia is not.
I liked the scene where Olivia tells Peter about her stepfather. I like that Peter is so patient with her, ready to listen if she wants to listen but not forcing anything, but that he also doesn't let her trample all over him. And I love that Olivia already trusts him enough to share this with him, and not only to share the story but to share how she feels about the story. That seems so far already from where pilot Olivia was on trusting people.
That's probably my favorite scene in the series so far. She can't remember Peter yet, but there is already a bond forming between them. Yeah, trust is a huge issue for her, and Peter, too, which is expected given their childhoods, and their history with Walter Bishop. She's such a strong person. Everyone on the show is always saying that, but it's true. But that strength has come at a great personal cost.